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From: "Conary-Thum, Sheila" <Sheila.Conary@CHW.edu>
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Thank you, all...I love the idea of a 'dedicated scribe' and would also
appreciate that TNCC Scribe course information/flow sheet you mentioned,
Becca.  Any "Activation Policy" ideas would also be most appreciated.
THANKS.  :-)
Sheila

Sheila Conary-Thum,RN,BSN
Trauma Program Manager
Northridge Hospital Medical Center
Northridge, CA  91328
(818) 885-8500  ext. 2758
(818) 775-0211  fax


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traumanurses Digest     Mon, 21 Apr 2003        Volume: 02  Issue: 090

In This Issue:
                [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup
                [traumanurses] SafetyLit: 21 April 2003
                [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup
                [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup
                [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup
                [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup
                [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup

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Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Mock Trauma drills
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 06:23:32 -0700
From: "Schroder, Robinelle" <Robinelle.Schroder@bannerhealth.com>

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Hi!  I would be interested also!  Thanks!
=20
Robinelle Schroder RN, BSN
Trauma Coordinator
Banner Good Samaritan Trauma Service
602-239-2391    office
602-239-4362    fax

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From: Leiding, Lisa [mailto:Lisa.Leiding@stvin.org]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 12:59 PM
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Subject: [traumanurses] Mock Trauma drills


Hi,
Does anyone have a mock trauma activation drill check off review form =
that you have already put together. I am looking for one so that I don't =
have to re-create a wheel. The next question is this the same review =
form in which you review all trauma activations?
=20
Thanks
=20
Lisa McLaughlin, RN, SANE-A
Trauma Nurse Coordinator
St. Vincent Hospital
Santa Fe, NM 87508








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Subject: [traumanurses] Trauma team makeup
From: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 08:29:43 -0500


A question for the group.  We are a Level II community based center.  We
have our trauma team in the ED as the ED nurse primary/record keeper,
secondary ED Nurse and ICU Nurse at the bedside with the assundry other
staff that also respond to the level I's.  I have been getting a lot of
flack from some of the ED staff as to the primary Nurse not being able to
"get dirty" so to say in the initial part of the resuscitation.  The
question is do any of you have alternate team make ups that differ from
this and if so, what is it.  The concept I have for the
primary/documentation  is that it is the ED nurse and they have control
over the room to make sure things are done, the assessments are completed
and I thought that it would be best to have the ED Nurse do this since they
have the most experience with the process and such.  I am not married to
this concept, but I think it makes the most sense.  Also, if there are
other ways I would be open to it.  I have stated that I do not want the
same nurse being primary all the time.  This is harder on nights with the
more limited staffing.

Thank You

Eric Peterson
Trauma Coordinator
Aurora Baycare Medical Center
Email: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com
Phone: 920-288-4301
Pager: 920-556-1846
Fax: 920-288-4067




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From: "Clements, Rebecca K." <Clements.Rebecca@mayo.edu>
Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 08:44:54 -0500


We are also a level II. We have a med/surg nurse that has had special
training do the documentation for the trauma team resuscitation so that the
ED nurses can be doing the hands on care of the patient. The med/surg nurse
has taken TNCC, a specialized 8 hour institution specific trauma course and
a special "recording" course that was specifically designed for our facility
and flowsheets.  This has worked very well for us.

Becca

Rebecca Clements, RN BSN
Immanuel St. Joseph's-Mayo Health System
Trauma Services
1025 Marsh St
Mankato, MN 56002-8673
Office: 507-389-4822
Fax: 507-389-4873
clements.rebecca@mayo.edu

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To: TraumaNurses@TraumaNurseSoc.org
Subject: [traumanurses] Trauma team makeup


A question for the group.  We are a Level II community based center.  We
have our trauma team in the ED as the ED nurse primary/record keeper,
secondary ED Nurse and ICU Nurse at the bedside with the assundry other
staff that also respond to the level I's.  I have been getting a lot of
flack from some of the ED staff as to the primary Nurse not being able to
"get dirty" so to say in the initial part of the resuscitation.  The
question is do any of you have alternate team make ups that differ from
this and if so, what is it.  The concept I have for the
primary/documentation  is that it is the ED nurse and they have control
over the room to make sure things are done, the assessments are completed
and I thought that it would be best to have the ED Nurse do this since they
have the most experience with the process and such.  I am not married to
this concept, but I think it makes the most sense.  Also, if there are
other ways I would be open to it.  I have stated that I do not want the
same nurse being primary all the time.  This is harder on nights with the
more limited staffing.

Thank You

Eric Peterson
Trauma Coordinator
Aurora Baycare Medical Center
Email: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com
Phone: 920-288-4301
Pager: 920-556-1846
Fax: 920-288-4067




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From: "Hotz, Heidi, RN" <Heidi.Hotz@cshs.org>
Subject: [traumanurses] SafetyLit: 21 April 2003
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 06:49:37 -0700




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> unintentional injuries, violence, and self-harm.
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> Alcohol and Other Drugs:
> 
> Nitrous oxide use in first-year students at Auckland University.
> 
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> The clinical toxicology of carbon monoxide.
> 
> - Gorman D, Drewry A, Huang YL, Sames C. Toxicology 2003; 187(1): 25-38.
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> Suicidal ideation and suicide attempts in homeless mentally ill persons:
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> Addressing hopelessness in people with suicidal ideation: building upon
> the therapeutic relationship utilizing a cognitive behavioural approach.
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> - Collins S, Cutcliffe JR. J Psychiatr Ment Health Nurs 2003; 10(2):
> 175-85.
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> Child and adolescent suicide : epidemiology, risk factors, and approaches
> to prevention.
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> - Pelkonen M, Marttunen M. Paediatr Drugs 2003; 5(4): 243-265.
> 
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> The influence of gender on risk factors for child and adolescent suicidal
> behavior
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> - Geva K, Zalsman G, Apter A. Harefuah 2003; 142(3): 203-207.
> 
> ==
> 
> The influences of place of birth and socioeconomic factors on attempted
> suicide in a defined population of 4.5 million people.
> 
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> 2003; 60(4): 409-414.
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> transport interventions? Evidence from systematic reviews.
> 
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> Teenage drivers: patterns of risk.
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Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 06:52:45 -0700
From: "Schroder, Robinelle" <Robinelle.Schroder@bannerhealth.com>


In June of 2001, we revamped our Trauma Team Members.  We used to have a =
system like the one you described, but were seeing some problems with =
it.  (i.e. verbalized dissatisfaction from RNs and Physicians) =20
        We now have a core group of Trauma RNs who are responsible for the =
Trauma Room and the "flow".  When they are assigned to Trauma, they have =
no other responsibilities.  Allows them to take care of Trauma issues =
across the spectrum.  Acute pt care issues, family problems, lost =
belongings, clinic pt questions/requests, etc. =20
        We brought in a scribe (our ortho tech) which allows the RNs to =
circulate, do pt care and manage the room.  Works out well as 60% of our =
Traumas have orthopedic issues. =20
        We have been pleased with how it has worked out.  There are
"sharing" =
problems as they are ED RNs, but usually it works well.

Robinelle Schroder RN, BSN
Trauma Coordinator
Banner Good Samaritan Trauma Service
Phoenix, Arizona
602-239-2391


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From: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com
[mailto:eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 6:30 AM
To: TraumaNurses@TraumaNurseSoc.org
Subject: [traumanurses] Trauma team makeup


A question for the group.  We are a Level II community based center.  We
have our trauma team in the ED as the ED nurse primary/record keeper,
secondary ED Nurse and ICU Nurse at the bedside with the assundry other
staff that also respond to the level I's.  I have been getting a lot of
flack from some of the ED staff as to the primary Nurse not being able =
to
"get dirty" so to say in the initial part of the resuscitation.  The
question is do any of you have alternate team make ups that differ from
this and if so, what is it.  The concept I have for the
primary/documentation  is that it is the ED nurse and they have control
over the room to make sure things are done, the assessments are =
completed
and I thought that it would be best to have the ED Nurse do this since =
they
have the most experience with the process and such.  I am not married to
this concept, but I think it makes the most sense.  Also, if there are
other ways I would be open to it.  I have stated that I do not want the
same nurse being primary all the time.  This is harder on nights with =
the
more limited staffing.

Thank You

Eric Peterson
Trauma Coordinator
Aurora Baycare Medical Center
Email: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com
Phone: 920-288-4301
Pager: 920-556-1846
Fax: 920-288-4067




To Digest or put your listserve on "vacation hold" refer to listserve =
page on the website.  STN does not accept the following:  Coarse or =
vulgar language, disparaging or untruthful remarks about health care =
professionals or institutions, job postings, or comments which otherwise =
would indicate a lack of respect or regard for trauma nursing or =
anything deemed inappropriate by the webmaster.  Subscribers who do not =
comply will be unsubscribed.  STN does not take any responsibility for =
the information shared on this listserve. =20

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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:58:05 -0400
From: "Janice Delgiorno" <Janice.Delgiorno@atlanticare.org>
Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup

We have two ER nurses per trauma patient.  One is the "primary" who scribes
and one is the "secondary" who is the patient contact person.  There is a
core group of nurses in the ER who care for trauma patients and they rotate
between primary and secondary, so no one feels left out.
Janice

>>> eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com 04/21/03 09:29AM >>>
A question for the group.  We are a Level II community based center.  We
have our trauma team in the ED as the ED nurse primary/record keeper,
secondary ED Nurse and ICU Nurse at the bedside with the assundry other
staff that also respond to the level I's.  I have been getting a lot of
flack from some of the ED staff as to the primary Nurse not being able to
"get dirty" so to say in the initial part of the resuscitation.  The
question is do any of you have alternate team make ups that differ from
this and if so, what is it.  The concept I have for the
primary/documentation  is that it is the ED nurse and they have control
over the room to make sure things are done, the assessments are completed
and I thought that it would be best to have the ED Nurse do this since they
have the most experience with the process and such.  I am not married to
this concept, but I think it makes the most sense.  Also, if there are
other ways I would be open to it.  I have stated that I do not want the
same nurse being primary all the time.  This is harder on nights with the
more limited staffing.

Thank You

Eric Peterson
Trauma Coordinator
Aurora Baycare Medical Center
Email: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com
Phone: 920-288-4301
Pager: 920-556-1846
Fax: 920-288-4067




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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:29:30 -0500
From: "Jennifer Becher" <JLBecher@stmarys.org>
Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup


Eric,

We use the same process.  The Primary Nurse is the one who documents,
she should be the most experience on in the room, have ACLS, TNCC,
PALS/ENPC etc....  She is the "conductor" of the orchestra, controller
of the room. The Surgeon verbalizes his assessment which she documents
and prompts others in the room.  This concept is relatively new for us,
at one point the Primary was at the bedside, and we had a scribe nurse. 
 It ended up after the trauma was stable and we were able to release
others at the bedside the documentation was not complete, when the
Surgeon and/or consulting physicians came in the Primary was unable to
give a complete report on the patient (i.e. MOI, etc...).  It is working
so far, some like it, some don't.....

Jennifer Becher, RN, BSN, CEN
Director Trauma Services
St. Mary's Medical Center
Evansville, IN 
812-485-6827

>>> eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com 04/21/03 08:29AM >>>
A question for the group.  We are a Level II community based center. 
We
have our trauma team in the ED as the ED nurse primary/record keeper,
secondary ED Nurse and ICU Nurse at the bedside with the assundry
other
staff that also respond to the level I's.  I have been getting a lot
of
flack from some of the ED staff as to the primary Nurse not being able
to
"get dirty" so to say in the initial part of the resuscitation.  The
question is do any of you have alternate team make ups that differ
from
this and if so, what is it.  The concept I have for the
primary/documentation  is that it is the ED nurse and they have
control
over the room to make sure things are done, the assessments are
completed
and I thought that it would be best to have the ED Nurse do this since
they
have the most experience with the process and such.  I am not married
to
this concept, but I think it makes the most sense.  Also, if there are
other ways I would be open to it.  I have stated that I do not want
the
same nurse being primary all the time.  This is harder on nights with
the
more limited staffing.

Thank You

Eric Peterson
Trauma Coordinator
Aurora Baycare Medical Center
Email: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com 
Phone: 920-288-4301
Pager: 920-556-1846
Fax: 920-288-4067




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page on the website.  STN does not accept the following:  Coarse or
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professionals or institutions, job postings, or comments which otherwise
would indicate a lack of respect or regard for trauma nursing or
anything deemed inappropriate by the webmaster.  Subscribers who do not
comply will be unsubscribed.  STN does not take any responsibility for
the information shared on this listserve.  


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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 12:31:16 -0500
From: "Jennifer Becher" <JLBecher@stmarys.org>
Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup


Becca,

Would you be willing to share your outline on the courses you teach.
This sounds very interesting.

Jennifer Becher, RN, BSN, CEN
Director Trauma Services
St. Mary's Medical Center
Evansville, IN 
812-485-6827
Fax: 812-485-6833


>>> Clements.Rebecca@mayo.edu 04/21/03 08:44AM >>>
We are also a level II. We have a med/surg nurse that has had special
training do the documentation for the trauma team resuscitation so that
the ED nurses can be doing the hands on care of the patient. The
med/surg nurse has taken TNCC, a specialized 8 hour institution specific
trauma course and a special "recording" course that was specifically
designed for our facility and flowsheets.  This has worked very well for
us.

Becca

Rebecca Clements, RN BSN
Immanuel St. Joseph's-Mayo Health System
Trauma Services
1025 Marsh St
Mankato, MN 56002-8673
Office: 507-389-4822
Fax: 507-389-4873
clements.rebecca@mayo.edu 

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-----Original Message-----
From: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com 
[mailto:eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:30 AM
To: TraumaNurses@TraumaNurseSoc.org 
Subject: [traumanurses] Trauma team makeup


A question for the group.  We are a Level II community based center. 
We
have our trauma team in the ED as the ED nurse primary/record keeper,
secondary ED Nurse and ICU Nurse at the bedside with the assundry
other
staff that also respond to the level I's.  I have been getting a lot
of
flack from some of the ED staff as to the primary Nurse not being able
to
"get dirty" so to say in the initial part of the resuscitation.  The
question is do any of you have alternate team make ups that differ
from
this and if so, what is it.  The concept I have for the
primary/documentation  is that it is the ED nurse and they have
control
over the room to make sure things are done, the assessments are
completed
and I thought that it would be best to have the ED Nurse do this since
they
have the most experience with the process and such.  I am not married
to
this concept, but I think it makes the most sense.  Also, if there are
other ways I would be open to it.  I have stated that I do not want
the
same nurse being primary all the time.  This is harder on nights with
the
more limited staffing.

Thank You

Eric Peterson
Trauma Coordinator
Aurora Baycare Medical Center
Email: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com 
Phone: 920-288-4301
Pager: 920-556-1846
Fax: 920-288-4067




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From: "Arpin, Cindy" <carpin@wwbh.org>
Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 14:16:46 -0400


I would be interested as well. Thanks

Cynthia Arpin, R.N.
Trauma Program Manager
W.W. Backus Hospital
326 Washington Street
Norwich, C.T. 06360
(860)889-8331 ext. 3220
FAX (860)892-2798


-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Becher [mailto:JLBecher@stmarys.org]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 1:31 PM
To: traumanurses@mailman.listserve.com
Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup


Becca,

Would you be willing to share your outline on the courses you teach.
This sounds very interesting.

Jennifer Becher, RN, BSN, CEN
Director Trauma Services
St. Mary's Medical Center
Evansville, IN 
812-485-6827
Fax: 812-485-6833


>>> Clements.Rebecca@mayo.edu 04/21/03 08:44AM >>>
We are also a level II. We have a med/surg nurse that has had special
training do the documentation for the trauma team resuscitation so that
the ED nurses can be doing the hands on care of the patient. The
med/surg nurse has taken TNCC, a specialized 8 hour institution specific
trauma course and a special "recording" course that was specifically
designed for our facility and flowsheets.  This has worked very well for
us.

Becca

Rebecca Clements, RN BSN
Immanuel St. Joseph's-Mayo Health System
Trauma Services
1025 Marsh St
Mankato, MN 56002-8673
Office: 507-389-4822
Fax: 507-389-4873
clements.rebecca@mayo.edu 

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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:30 AM
To: TraumaNurses@TraumaNurseSoc.org 
Subject: [traumanurses] Trauma team makeup


A question for the group.  We are a Level II community based center. 
We
have our trauma team in the ED as the ED nurse primary/record keeper,
secondary ED Nurse and ICU Nurse at the bedside with the assundry
other
staff that also respond to the level I's.  I have been getting a lot
of
flack from some of the ED staff as to the primary Nurse not being able
to
"get dirty" so to say in the initial part of the resuscitation.  The
question is do any of you have alternate team make ups that differ
from
this and if so, what is it.  The concept I have for the
primary/documentation  is that it is the ED nurse and they have
control
over the room to make sure things are done, the assessments are
completed
and I thought that it would be best to have the ED Nurse do this since
they
have the most experience with the process and such.  I am not married
to
this concept, but I think it makes the most sense.  Also, if there are
other ways I would be open to it.  I have stated that I do not want
the
same nurse being primary all the time.  This is harder on nights with
the
more limited staffing.

Thank You

Eric Peterson
Trauma Coordinator
Aurora Baycare Medical Center
Email: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com 
Phone: 920-288-4301
Pager: 920-556-1846
Fax: 920-288-4067




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From: "Eric PETERSON" <epeterson5@msn.com>
Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team makeup
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 13:57:30 -0500

 

I would also.


Eric L Peterson >From: "Arpin, Cindy" >Reply-To:
traumanurses@mailman.listserve.com >To:
"'traumanurses@mailman.listserve.com'" >Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Trauma
team makeup >Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 14:16:46 -0400 >>I would be interested
aswell. Thanks >>Cynthia Arpin, R.N. >Trauma Program Manager >W.W. Backus
Hospital >326 Washington Street >Norwich, C.T. 06360 >(860)889-8331 ext.
3220>FAX (860)892-2798 >>>-----Original Message----- >From: Jennifer Becher
[mailto:JLBecher@stmarys.org] >Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 1:31 PM >To:
traumanurses@mailman.listserve.com >Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Trauma team
makeup >>>Becca, >>Would you be willing to share your outline on the courses
you teach. >This sounds very interesting. >>Jennifer Becher, RN, BSN, CEN
>Director Trauma Services >St. Mary's Medical Center >Evansville, IN
>812-485-6827 >Fax: 812-485-6833 >>>>>>Clements.Rebecca@mayo.edu 04/21/03
08:44AM >>>>We are also a level II. We have a med/surg nurse that has had
special >training do the documentation for the trauma team resuscitation so
that >the ED nurses can be doing the hands on care of the patient. The
>med/surg nurse has taken TNCC, a specialized 8 hour institution specific
>trauma course and a special "recording" course that was specifically
>designed for our facility and flowsheets. This has worked very well for
>us.>>Becca >>Rebecca Clements, RN BSN >Immanuel St. Joseph's-Mayo Health
System >Trauma Services >1025 Marsh St >Mankato, MN 56002-8673 >Office:
507-389-4822 >Fax: 507-389-4873 >clements.rebecca@mayo.edu >>CONFIDENTIALITY
NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, >is for the sole use
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information. Any unauthorized review use >disclosure or distribution is
prohibited. If you are not the intended >recipient, please contact the
senderby reply e-mail and destroy all >copies of the original message.
>>>-----Original Message----- >From: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com
>[mailto:eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com] >Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 8:30
AM >To: TraumaNurses@TraumaNurseSoc.org >Subject: [traumanurses] Trauma team
makeup >>>A question for the group. We are a Level II community based
center.>We >have our trauma team in the ED as the ED nurse primary/record
keeper, >secondary ED Nurse and ICU Nurse at the bedside with the assundry
>other >staff that also respond to the level I's. I have been getting a lot
>of >flack from some of the ED staff as to the primary Nurse not being able
>to >"get dirty" so to say in the initial part of the resuscitation. The
>question is do any of you have alternate team make ups that differ >from
>this and if so, what is it. The concept I have for the
>primary/documentation is that it is the ED nurse and they have >control
>over the room to make sure things are done, the assessments are >completed
>and I thought that it would be best to have the ED Nurse do this since
>they>have the most experience with the process and such. I am not married
>to >this concept, but I think it makes the most sense. Also, if there are
>other ways I would be open to it. I have stated that I do not want >the
>same nurse being primary all the time. This is harder on nights with >the
>more limited staffing. >>Thank You >>Eric Peterson >Trauma Coordinator
>Aurora Baycare Medical Center >Email: eric.peterson@aurorabaycare.com
>Phone: 920-288-4301 >Pager: 920-556-1846 >Fax: 920-288-4067 >>>>>To Digest
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