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From: "Arpin, Cindy" <carpin@wwbh.org>
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 17:03:23 -0400
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I know staffing is tough but sitters do seem the way to go. We've had more than one meeting on that topic! It's pretty non-therapeutic to restrain the TBI pt. Then again, so is having them get hurt!
We try to get their day/night patterns set. Trazadone at hs, and we use Risperdal quite a bit too and find it very effective for the restlessness.  The pts seem to do real good with those 2 in combo, I've seen some pretty dramatic behavior changes. We have a wonderful physiatrist on staff, I imagine you do too. Talk to him or her if you haven't already.

Cynthia Arpin, R.N.
Trauma Program Manager
W.W. Backus Hospital
326 Washington Street
Norwich, C.T. 06360
(860)889-8331 ext. 3220
FAX (860)892-2798

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From: Uribe Phyllis [mailto:Phyllis.Uribe@HealthONEcares.com]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 4:39 PM
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Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Need some help with agitated neurotrauma p atie nts

Thanks, Tony. We, too, love Propofol. However, I should have been clearer that the patients I seek ideas for have been transferred out of critical care and are not in monitored beds....our neurotrauma unit is a step-down type of unit for patients with brain and spinal cord injuries.
Phyllis Uribe
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From: Mitchell, Tony [mailto:tmitchel@stj.com]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:35 PM
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Subject: [traumanurses] Re: Need some help with agitated neurotrauma patie nts

Phyllis,

 

After trying every possible way we knew, we have found that if a family member cannot stay with the patient, minimal doses of Propofol, Midazolam, and soft restraints work the best on our agitated head injury patients. We only use enough Propofol to prevent them from injuring themselves and that dose is clearly patient specific. Usually the family member has minimal involvement unless you can see an obvious positive response from the patient but the family member can see how difficult it is to manage their loved one and this is very important in other ways. The neurologists usually call or have certain times they make rounds and ask that we shut the Propofol off about ½ an hour before they arrive so they can assess the patients status. Frequent attempts are made to decrease the Propofol and balance with increased Midazolam until eventually you can get everything off. Hope this helps.

 

Tony Mitchell RN, CCRN,

Trauma Coordinator

St. John's Regional Medical Center

Joplin, Missouri, 64804

Office-  417-627-8337

Pager- 888-665-1827

email- tmitchel@stj.com

 

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From: Uribe Phyllis [mailto:Phyllis.Uribe@HealthONEcares.com]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 3:09 PM
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Subject: [traumanurses] Need some help with agitated neurotrauma patients

 

Greetings, all. As you head off into your weekend, our neurotrauma unit is looking for some creative ideas on how to assure safety for agitated brain injured patients. They often request an order for a "sitter" or "behavioral attendant" to stay with the patient, but staffing and budget constraints mean that is not always available. Any ideas you have used or policies for deciding between drugs, restraints, and attendants would be welcomed. Thank you in advance.

Phyllis Uribe RN BSN CCRN
Trauma Program Supervisor
303-788-5082 (office)
303-788-6928 (FAX)
Phyllis.Uribe@HealthONEcares.com
www.swedishhospital.com

 



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